# Lockie Phillips - When it comes to Horses, Obedience is Out and Empathy is In - S2 E3

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Podcast: [The Empathetic Trainer](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-empathetic-trainer-6506875)
Published: 2024-02-23T22:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.empathetic-trainer.com/lockie-phillips-when-it-comes-to-horses-obedience-is-out-and-empathy-is-in-s2-e3/
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Duration seconds: 5157

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Send us Fan Mail Lockie Phillips, Founder of Emotional Horsemanship, joins us on our podcast to share his insights on empathy and horses. He tells us how we can reimagine horse training and move beyond obedience to establish a deeper connection based on compassion. Lockie believes that training programs should be horse centered and focused on the well- being of the horse rather than performance. And that real change requires patience, understanding and the willingness to adapt to the in...

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