# Horses, Trauma & Healing — “Horses Notice What We Hide” with Toni Mattson S4 E32

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Podcast: [The Empathetic Trainer](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-empathetic-trainer-6506875)
Published: 2026-05-12T02:00:00+00:00
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Send us Fan Mail Today I’m talking with Toni Mattson of Trinity Equestrian Center in Eau Claire, Wisconsin. Toni and her team work with horses alongside veterans, first responders, youth, and individuals facing trauma, PTSD, dementia, and other life challenges. We talk about what horses notice about people, why they respond so honestly to emotion, and how animals can help people reconnect with hope, trust, and themselves. We also discuss Toni’s book Unlikely Recruits, her work with veterans, ...

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