# Emma Dorn | McKinsey & Company Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-education-equation-with-jeremy-singer-7488395/emma-dorn-mckinsey-company Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-education-equation-with-jeremy-singer-7488395/emma-dorn-mckinsey-company.md Podcast: [The Education Equation with Jeremy Singer](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-education-equation-with-jeremy-singer-7488395) Published: 2026-05-27T09:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/PLMD7437804852.mp3 Audio file: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/PLMD7437804852.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-education-equation-with-jeremy-singer-7488395/episodes/emma-dorn-mckinsey-company Duration seconds: 2374 ## Resource Global Tech, Local Impact: Unlocking Classroom Bottlenecks with Emma Dorn How can we let data drive student success? On this episode, host Jeremy Singer talks with Emma Dorn, a Senior Knowledge Expert at McKinsey & Company, about how school systems improve and sustain progress at scale. While the US debate focuses on whether to use technology, the Global South innovates out of necessity due to resource constraints. From solar tablets in Malawi to WhatsApp coaching in Pakistan, Emma shares how to solve the core instructional bottleneck. Emma outlines five case studies from around the world where technology solves real instructional problems: • First, design for the instructional bottleneck, not the tech. In Malawi, where class sizes reach 150, Imagine Worldwide deploys offline, solar-powered tablets running adaptive software, doubling literacy and math fluency. • Second, technology designed for teachers can be more transformative than direct-to-student devices. McKinsey's analysis of global PISA data shows tech in the hands of teachers adds a year or two of learning, while student devices reduce outcomes due to distraction. New Globe utilizes teacher tablets to deliver structured lesson plans offline. • Third, technology works better when aligned with the curriculum. Mentu's AI assistant in Colombia and the Dominican Republic maps to local curricula to scaffold lower-skill teachers. • Fourth, technology is most powerful when scaling proven interventions like teacher coaching. In Pakistan, Talimabad created a WhatsApp-native digital coach analyzing classroom audio to give immediate feedback. • Fifth, think beyond the Scantron. Using the Teaching at the Right Level (TaRL) methodology, Pratham and Wadhwani AI developed oral reading fluency assessments operating on $50 cell… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-education-equation-with-jeremy-singer-7488395/episodes/emma-dorn-mckinsey-company/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-education-equation-with-jeremy-singer-7488395/emma-dorn-mckinsey-company.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.