# How to win a trade war, with Paul Krugman and Chad Bown

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Podcast: [The Economics Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-economics-show-6910728)
Published: 2026-05-29T04:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://shows.acast.com/the-economics-show-with-soumaya-keynes/episodes/how-to-win-a-trade-war-with-paul-krugman-and-chad-bown
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In a reversal of roles, Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman steps into host Soumaya Keynes shoes to quiz her and co-author Chad Bown about their new book "How to Win a Trade War", and the lessons it contains for surviving a global world order where traditional trade rules are being abandoned. They discuss the fragile domestic politics of a trade war, what the rest of the world can learn from China and reasons to be sort of cheerful about the future of global trade. Further reading No one wins a trade war. Or do they? Why Europe must embrace tariffs Subscribe to Soumaya's show on Apple , Spotify , Pocket Casts or wherever you listen. Presented by Soumaya Keynes. Produced by Mischa Frankl-Duval. Manuela Saragosa is the executive producer. Original music and sound design by Breen Turner. Read a transcript of this episode on FT.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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