# Why Southern History Changes Everything W/ On Our Own Authority

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Podcast: [The Dugout | a Black anarchist podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-dugout-a-black-anarchist-podcast-6944129)
Published: 2026-07-20T04:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-dugout2/episodes/Why-Southern-History-Changes-Everything-W-On-Our-Own-Authority-e3m9o90
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## Resource

Modibo Kadalie and Andrew Zonneveld sit down for a conversation about the moments that shaped their politics over decades of organizing. Modibo reflects on the decision to resist the Vietnam draft and leave the United States, while both discuss what it was like raising children alongside anti-war organizing, how the history of Georgia and the Black South continues to influence their thinking, and where they see Pan-Africanism today. They also share what’s next for On Our Own Authority Publishing and close by reflecting on the movements, struggles, and everyday acts of resistance that continue to give them hope for the future. -------------------------------- 00:00 Intro 00:50 what was it live to make the decision to leave the USA 13:37 how was engaging in social movements as a new parent 22:18 how does being in Georgia impact your politics 31:34 what is the state of Pan-Africanism in your eyes 34:16 what are some new books or projects On Our Own Authority is planning? 43:14 What is giving you hope ---------------------------------------------- Community Books https://community-books.com/ Support Community Books on Patreon On Our Own Authority https://on-our-own-authority-publishing.square.site/ www.oooabooks.org --------------------------------------------- Stay connected with The Dugout ! Follow us for updates, exclusive content, and more: 🔗 OUR WEBSITE: https://www.thedugoutpodcast.com/ 🔗 ⁠ Instagram ⁠ : ⁠ https://www.instagram.com/dugoutpodcast/⁠ 🔗 ⁠ Substack ⁠ : ⁠ https://tdugout.substack.com/⁠ 🔗 ⁠ YouTube ⁠ : ⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@thedugoutpod⁠ 🔗 ⁠ Patreon ⁠ : ⁠ https://www.patreon.com/TheDugoutPod⁠ 🔗 ⁠ OUR LINKS ⁠ : ⁠ https://bio.site/thedugoutpodcast⁠ 🔗 Watch Prince Shakur on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMMgrSHWLLU4U_FnJ1u10Ug

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