# Rafales: Black Autonomy & Prefigurative Politics (In Conversation in Montreal) Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-dugout-a-black-anarchist-podcast-6944129/rafales-black-autonomy-prefigurative-politics-in-conversation-in-montreal Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-dugout-a-black-anarchist-podcast-6944129/rafales-black-autonomy-prefigurative-politics-in-conversation-in-montreal.md Podcast: [The Dugout | a Black anarchist podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-dugout-a-black-anarchist-podcast-6944129) Published: 2026-05-05T15:26:48+00:00 Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-dugout2/episodes/Rafales-Black-Autonomy--Prefigurative-Politics-In-Conversation-in-Montreal-e3ittgs Audio file: https://anchor.fm/s/e8e55a68/podcast/play/119518172/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-4-5%2F423513807-44100-2-77b1c9105df8.m4a Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-dugout-a-black-anarchist-podcast-6944129/episodes/rafales-black-autonomy-prefigurative-politics-in-conversation-in-montreal Duration seconds: 6052 ## Resource Recorded live at Rafales (the anarchist learning camp hosted by ORA (Organisation Révolutionnaire Anarchiste) in Montreal). We sat down with Zoya, one of the organizers, to dig into what Black autonomy actually looks like in practice: as theory, as daily organizing, and as a framework that refuses to wait for someone else's revolution to be finished first. From prefigurative politics to Afro-pessimism, from the Black Liberation Army to Cooperation Jackson, from Standing Rock to the Anarchist Group in Sudan, this conversation traces the lineage of Black radical struggle across generations and geographies. We also get into what it means to show up as Black folks in a diaspora full of contradictions; navigating immigrant families, queer identity, settler land, and the ever-present question of who solidarity is actually for. Edited by Badger Want extended show notes? Check out our Patreon post: https://www.patreon.com/posts/rafales-black-in-157439680 About Rafales: https://ora-rao.org/rafales-en/ Organisation Révolutionnaire Anarchiste: https://www.instagram.com/ora.rao.rev/ Support independent bookstores by purchasing with our affiliate link on through Bookshop.org : https://bookshop.org/lists/what-we-re-reading-at-the-dugout Media Mentioned Books Lose Your Mother — Saidiya Hartman Afropessimism — Frank B. Wilderson III Tip of the Spear — Orisanmi Burton The Autobiography of Malcolm X — Malcolm X & Alex Haley Assata: An Autobiography — Assata Shakur In Defense of Looting — Vicky Osterweil Fear of the Black Nation — David Austin An Afro-Indigenous History of the United States — Kyle T. Mays Seven Fallen Feathers — Tanya Talaga How Europe Underdeveloped Africa — Walter Rodney Documentaries Dope Is Death — dir. Mia Donovan (Young Lords & acupuncture in North America)… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-dugout-a-black-anarchist-podcast-6944129/episodes/rafales-black-autonomy-prefigurative-politics-in-conversation-in-montreal/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-dugout-a-black-anarchist-podcast-6944129/rafales-black-autonomy-prefigurative-politics-in-conversation-in-montreal.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.