# Dirty Utopia (Deep Space Nine)

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Podcast: [The Doctor Who Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-doctor-who-show-1100586)
Published: 2026-01-18T01:01:38+00:00
Episode link: https://theDWshow.podbean.com/e/dirty-utopia-deep-space-nine/
Audio file: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/qd5wnjpmvhymawt3/Alternate_Galaxies_034_-_Deep_Space_Nine9c1xp.mp3
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Duration seconds: 5467

## Resource

This episode of Alternate Galaxies heads to Deep Space Nine, the Star Trek series that broke the mould, and maybe still divides fans more than any other. Dave has lived with DS9 for decades, knows its arcs, its politics, its slow burns and big payoffs. Rob is coming in cold(ish), watching it properly for the first time in the past few months and seeing it all with fresh eyes. Quite a contrast! The guys dig into what DS9 was trying to do, how it evolved over seven seasons, the shift from episodic comfort food to long-form storytelling not just on DS9 but on 90s TV overall, and whether its darker tone and moral greys actually pay off. Along the way they talk characters, war, religion, politics, Ferengi episodes, and all the ways this show remains the black sheep of the Star Trek canon. Join them as they look at one of sci-fi TV’s most ambitious series. Contact the guys: X / Twitter: @theDWshowBluesky: @thedwshow.netFacebook: facebook.com/theDWshowEmail: hello@theDWshow.net

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