# Inflation vs. Deflation in an Age of AI

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Podcast: [The Dividend Cafe](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-dividend-cafe-743128)
Published: 2026-07-24T16:19:00+00:00
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## Resource

Today's Post - https://bahnsen.co/3TdOnKh David Bahnsen discusses whether the U.S. has shifted from the 1990–2020 disinflation era to a higher structural inflation range, engaging Dr. Lacy Hunt’s view that the prior 1.5–2.5% equilibrium may have broken toward 3.5–5% as globalization wanes. Bahnsen argues globalization aided disinflation but wasn’t the sole driver, emphasizing Hunt’s framework that rising government debt lowers money velocity, crowds out productive investment, and suppresses long-term growth. He questions whether deglobalization is truly structural, citing industrial-policy efforts as often half-hearted and inconsistently enforced. Turning to AI, he notes build-out is capital- and energy-intensive and can be temporarily inflationary, but sees two longer-run outcomes that both lean disinflationary: a favorable productivity-driven supply shock, or a recessionary bust if AI disappoints. He concludes the dominant backdrop remains excess government debt and spending depressing growth. 00:00 Welcome and Setup 00:28 Inflation Beyond Headlines 02:23 The Disinflation Era 1990-2020 04:08 Lacy Hunt and Debt Dynamics 06:35 Was Globalization the Driver 09:15 Is Globalization Really Ending 12:23 AI as the New Productivity Wave 14:02 Funding the Buildout 15:11 Two AI Outcomes Deflation Either Way 19:19 Final Takeaways and Signoff Links mentioned in this episode: DividendCafe.com TheBahnsenGroup.com

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