# The Last Refuge of Scoundrels with Kelsey McKinney & Alex Sujong Laughlin Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-distraction-a-defector-podcast-513759/the-last-refuge-of-scoundrels-with-kelsey-mckinney-alex-sujong-laughlin Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-distraction-a-defector-podcast-513759/the-last-refuge-of-scoundrels-with-kelsey-mckinney-alex-sujong-laughlin.md Podcast: [The Distraction: A Defector Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-distraction-a-defector-podcast-513759) Published: 2026-06-25T05:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://mgln.ai/e/282/pscrb.fm/rss/p/clrtpod.com/m/tracking.swap.fm/track/IVPmvUWSCISCVAzWNnnJ/rss.art19.com/episodes/6f7f75d6-03a0-4a65-b470-0739d42c70c4.mp3?rss_browser=BAhJIg90cmFuc2NyaWJyBjoGRVQ%3D--952c5701c84ad333c69d5faa668f8177091704f0 Audio file: https://mgln.ai/e/282/pscrb.fm/rss/p/clrtpod.com/m/tracking.swap.fm/track/IVPmvUWSCISCVAzWNnnJ/rss.art19.com/episodes/6f7f75d6-03a0-4a65-b470-0739d42c70c4.mp3?rss_browser=BAhJIg90cmFuc2NyaWJyBjoGRVQ%3D--952c5701c84ad333c69d5faa668f8177091704f0 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-distraction-a-defector-podcast-513759/episodes/the-last-refuge-of-scoundrels-with-kelsey-mckinney-alex-sujong-laughlin Duration seconds: 3891 ## Resource Kelsey is here! Drew is not! Alex Sujong Laughlin is also here to discuss the new season of Try Hard , the first episode of which just came out last week. Alex has written some really good and really scathing stuff about the scourge of The Video Podcast—how is she trying to make this one different and better? Also, Kelsey is about to disappear for a month to write a book. How does she tackle the mental and emotional challenge of locking in for that kind of thing? Finally, Roth is taught about Love Island, and they open up the funbag to answer real questions from Defector readers and Distraction listeners. Do you want to hear your question answered on the pod? Well, give us a call at 909-726-3720. That is 909-PANERA-0! Stuff We Talked About Speedrunning a sewing class, any% Fiber A sex barracks & other lustfulness Shaking the ant farm Men learning basic skills A wombat with the zoomies Credits - Hosts: Drew Magary & David Roth - Producer: Brandon Grugle - Editor: Mischa Stanton - Production Services & Ads: Multitude Podcasts - Subscribe to Defector ! About The Show The Distraction is Defector's flagship podcast about sports (and movies, and art, and sandwiches, and certain coastal states) from longtime writers Drew Magary and David Roth. Every week, Drew and Roth tackle subjects, both serious and impossibly stupid, with a parade of guests from around the world of sports and media joining in the fun! Roth and Drew also field Funbag questions from Defector readers, answer listener voicemails, and get upset about the number of people who use speakerphone while in a public bathroom stall. This is a show where everything matters, because everyone could use a Distraction. Head to defector.com for more info. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and Calif… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-distraction-a-defector-podcast-513759/episodes/the-last-refuge-of-scoundrels-with-kelsey-mckinney-alex-sujong-laughlin/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-distraction-a-defector-podcast-513759/the-last-refuge-of-scoundrels-with-kelsey-mckinney-alex-sujong-laughlin.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.