# Ep. 240 - Dualism — The Battle Between Spirit and Matter

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Podcast: [The Deconstructionists](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-deconstructionists-463931)
Published: 2026-05-27T22:07:35+00:00
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What if one of the most influential ideas in modern Christianity… didn’t actually come from Jesus? In this episode of The Deconstructionists Podcast , we explore the history and impact of dualism — the ancient belief that spirit is good while matter, bodies, and the physical world are somehow lesser, corrupt, or evil. From Plato and Greek philosophy to Gnosticism and modern evangelical culture, we trace how dualistic thinking quietly shaped theology, sexuality, purity culture, views of the body, the afterlife, politics, and even the way many Christians understand salvation itself. We ask questions like: Why have so many Christians viewed the body with suspicion? Did the Bible actually teach a sharp divide between “spiritual” and “physical”? How did Greek philosophy influence early Christianity? Why do some forms of Christianity focus so heavily on “escaping the world”? What happens when faith becomes disconnected from embodiment, justice, and humanity? And what might a more holistic, integrated spirituality look like? Along the way, we discuss: Plato and the influence of Greek metaphysics Gnosticism and the material/spiritual divide The Hebrew understanding of embodied humanity Paul’s writings and common misunderstandings about “flesh” Heaven, resurrection, and the renewal of creation Purity culture and body shame The lasting influence of dualism on modern evangelicalism Deconstruction, embodiment, and recovering wholeness This conversation explores how ideas developed historically — and how those ideas still shape people’s lives today, often in ways they don’t even realize. Whether you come from an evangelical background, are in the middle of deconstruction, or are simply interested in theology, philosophy, and history, this episode offers a deeper look at one of the…

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