# Transforming Autism Support with Dr. Amy Laurent Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-david-kaufer-podcast-the-lighter-side-of-the-spectrum-7096940/transforming-autism-support-with-dr-amy-laurent Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-david-kaufer-podcast-the-lighter-side-of-the-spectrum-7096940/transforming-autism-support-with-dr-amy-laurent.md Podcast: [The David Kaufer Podcast: The Lighter Side of the Spectrum](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-david-kaufer-podcast-the-lighter-side-of-the-spectrum-7096940) Published: 2026-02-24T18:55:20+00:00 Episode link: https://kauferpodcast.podbean.com/e/transforming-autism-support-with-dr-amy-laurent/ Audio file: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/cibar2htrqieu77d/audio_of_Amy_Laurent78jxq.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-david-kaufer-podcast-the-lighter-side-of-the-spectrum-7096940/episodes/transforming-autism-support-with-dr-amy-laurent Duration seconds: 3140 ## Resource David welcomes Dr. Amy Laurent, developmental psychologist, co-creator of the SCERTS Model and co-founder of Autism Level Up, to discuss shifting autism support from compliance-based behavior management to relationship-centered, autonomy-respecting care. Amy shares her path from occupational therapy and traumatic brain injury work into autism, sparked by her first autistic client and mentorship with Dr. Barry Prizant. They critique outdated behavior charts and the “use your words” mindset, exploring how communication barriers, dyspraxia/apraxia, and high effort demands can reduce initiation, erode trust, and create harmful passivity mistaken for progress. Amy explains SCERTS (Social/Significant Communication, Emotional/Energy Regulation, and Transactional Support) as a partnership model that embeds partner responsibilities into goals and assessment. They highlight emerging collaboration among developmental frameworks, including a coalition advancing funding alternatives to behavioral services in California. Amy describes AutismLevelUp.com’s practical, largely free tools, including energy regulation and “Solve Not Size.” Visit AutismLevelUp.com Topics 00:45 Meet Dr. Amy Laurent 02:01 Serendipity Into Autism 06:24 Questioning Behaviorism 11:52 Funding And Coalitions 16:17 What Is The SCERTS Model 22:28 Updating SCERTS With Autistic Voices 25:49 Initiation And Praxis Challenges 26:37 Dyspraxia Motor Planning Load 28:15 Communication Drain and Mouth Words 28:41 Why Use Your Words Backfires 30:13 Withdrawal and Lost Trust 31:16 Rebuilding Trust by Responding 34:36 Autism Level Up Origin Story 36:45 Energy Regulation Toolkits 38:21 Solve Not Size Framework 40:17 Whole Body Learner and Pain Tools 42:29 Autism Tip Deep Why 44:31 Fact or Fiction Calm vs Regulated 46:54 Parent C… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-david-kaufer-podcast-the-lighter-side-of-the-spectrum-7096940/episodes/transforming-autism-support-with-dr-amy-laurent/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-david-kaufer-podcast-the-lighter-side-of-the-spectrum-7096940/transforming-autism-support-with-dr-amy-laurent.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.