# Dr. Barry Prizant on Presuming Competence & the Power of Community

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Podcast: [The David Kaufer Podcast: The Lighter Side of the Spectrum](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-david-kaufer-podcast-the-lighter-side-of-the-spectrum-7096940)
Published: 2026-03-21T00:17:59+00:00
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## Resource

David welcomes Dr. Barry Prizant—speech-language pathologist, researcher, consultant, and author of "Uniquely Human"—to discuss how autism conversations can shift from deficits and pathology to dignity, emotional safety, and relationship-based support. Prizant recounts entering the field through a summer camp job, early experiences with bullying and “othering,” and a career blending academic work with “in the trenches” consulting. He describes research that depathologized echolalia by documenting its communicative functions and critiques traditional applied behavior analysis for compliance training, extinguishing behaviors without understanding “why,” and dismissing internal experience. David and Prizant share “parent/professional confessions” about misreading autistic attention and forcing participation, emphasize listening to autistic people and families, and address trauma, selective mutism, non-speaking communication, and coordinated misinformation. They close on the importance of supportive communities for parents and autistic people. Email David at david.kaufer@hey.com More on Barry at https://barryprizant.com/ Topics 00:39 Meet Barry Prizant 02:41 Early Career Origins 04:31 Empathy and Othering 06:41 Academic and Clinical Path 08:40 Challenging Old Autism Models 14:51 Listening and Parent Retreats 16:12 Why Uniquely Human 18:24 Nonspeaking and Presuming Competence 20:26 Parent Confessions Segment 25:09 Unlearning and ABA Debate 27:08 What ABA Is 27:47 Chomsky vs Skinner 28:59 Ask Why First 30:07 ABA Compliance Risks 32:53 Unlearning and Propaganda 34:52 Attacks and Misinformation 39:37 Neurodiversity and Competence 40:49 Autism Fact or Fiction 44:10 Trauma and Speech 50:03 Finding Your Community 52:42 Closing Thanks

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