# Oxtails, "Chicken 66," and Science With Krishna Choudhary, PhD, and Lester Nare of the From First Principles Podcast

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Podcast: [The Dave Chang Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-dave-chang-show-427293)
Published: 2026-03-12T10:00:00+00:00
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Dave makes Jamaican oxtails and "Chicken 66," an amalgamation of Chicken 65 and chilli chicken, for two smart guests: Lester Nare and physicist Krishna Choudhary, cohosts of one of his favorite podcasts, From First Principles. They talk about how they began their journeys in science, formed a friendship, and found a podcast format that works for both them and the layperson listener. They also discuss why science is important overall, Dave's unified theory of deliciousness, fresh spices versus ground, and, of course, MSG. Check out From First Principles: https://www.ffppod.com/ Check out From First Principles' double-slit episode: https://www.ffppod.com/episodes/ep3 Read Dave's "Unified Theory of Deliciousness" article: https://www.wired.com/2016/07/chef-david-chang-on-deliciousness/ Learn more about Diamond Crystal salt: https://www.diamondcrystalsalt.com/kosher-salt Learn more about Ajinomoto MSG: https://www.ajinomoto.com/ Learn more about Accent: https://accentflavor.com/product/flavor-enhancer/ Visit us in stores and online https://Warbyparker.com/CHANG Host: Dave Chang Guests: Lester Nare, Krishna Choudary Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino Additional Crew: Michael Berger, Abby Zidonis, Marcus Yasui, Michael Delgado, Elizabeth Styles Editor: Jake Loskutoff Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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