# How Data Scientists Use Counterfactual Explanations to Build Trust Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-data-science-podcast-with-fexingo-analytics-machine-learning-and-data-driven-conversations-7871831/how-data-scientists-use-counterfactual-explanations-to-build-trust Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-data-science-podcast-with-fexingo-analytics-machine-learning-and-data-driven-conversations-7871831/how-data-scientists-use-counterfactual-explanations-to-build-trust.md Podcast: [The Data Science Podcast with Fexingo: Analytics, Machine Learning, and Data-Driven Conversations](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-data-science-podcast-with-fexingo-analytics-machine-learning-and-data-driven-conversations-7871831) Published: 2026-06-11T20:28:46+00:00 Episode link: https://audio.fexingo.com/business/the-data-science-podcast/episode-0045.mp3 Audio file: https://audio.fexingo.com/business/the-data-science-podcast/episode-0045.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-data-science-podcast-with-fexingo-analytics-machine-learning-and-data-driven-conversations-7871831/episodes/how-data-scientists-use-counterfactual-explanations-to-build-trust Duration seconds: 515 ## Resource Episode 45 of The Data Science Podcast explores the emerging practice of counterfactual explanations — 'what-if' scenarios that help end users understand why a machine learning model made a particular decision. Lucas and Luna walk through a concrete example from the lending industry: a small business owner named Maria whose loan application was denied by an automated risk model. Instead of a black-box rejection, a counterfactual explanation tells her: 'If your annual revenue were $150,000 instead of $100,000, your application would have been approved.' The hosts discuss how companies like JPMorgan and Zest AI are piloting these techniques to comply with regulatory pressure and improve customer trust, and they weigh the trade-offs between fidelity and simplicity. They also touch on the computational cost of generating counterfactuals at scale and the risk of exposing sensitive model boundaries. This episode is anchored to the current regulatory landscape as of June 2026, with references to the EU's AI Act and the FTC's guidance on algorithmic fairness. #CounterfactualExplanations #ExplainableAI #MachineLearning #DataScience #LendingAlgorithms #ModelInterpretability #AITrust #RegulatoryCompliance #EUAIAct #FTC #JPMorgan #ZestAI #SmallBusinessLoans #WhatIfAnalysis #BlackBoxModels #AlgorithmicFairness #FeatureImportance #FexingoBusiness Keep every episode free: buymeacoffee.com/fexingo ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-data-science-podcast-with-fexingo-analytics-machine-learning-and-data-driven-conversations-7871831/episodes/how-data-scientists-use-counterfactual-explanations-to-build-trust/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-data-science-podcast-with-fexingo-analytics-machine-learning-and-data-driven-conversations-7871831/how-data-scientists-use-counterfactual-explanations-to-build-trust.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.