# ‘You’re lying!’: Tories, Reform and Labour clash in feisty Daily T debate

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Podcast: [The Daily T](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-daily-t-895223)
Published: 2026-04-30T15:43:11+00:00
Episode link: https://shows.acast.com/two-minute-briefing/episodes/youre-lying-tories-reform-and-labour-debate
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## Resource

To kick off The Daily T On Tour, Conservative, Reform and Labour politicians joined Camilla Tominey and Tim Stanley to go head to head live on stage – and it didn’t disappoint. James Cleverly, Tory shadow housing secretary, Zia Yusuf, Reform’s home affairs spokesman and James Murray, Chief Secretary to the Treasury, hashed it out about the immigration “invasion” of Britain; how Starmer’s Government is clobbering the middle class; and if our diminished military could defend the Falklands today. In a sometimes testy exchange, Mr Cleverly attacked Reform’s record in local government, Mr Yusuf went after the Tories over immigration figures, and Mr Murray was almost laughed out the room when he tries to defend Labour’s welfare policies. We want to hear from you! Email us at thedailyt@telegraph.co.uk or find @dailytpodcast on TikTok, Instagram and X ► Sign up to our most popular newsletter, From the Editor. Look forward to receiving free-thinking comment and the day's biggest stories, every morning. telegraph.co.uk/fromtheeditor Producers: Georgia Coan and Lilian Fawcett Senior Producer: John Cadigan Executive Producer: Charlotte Seligman Video Producer: Will Walters Camera Operator: Andy Mackenzie Editor: Camilla Tominey Highlights Tories, Labour and Reform go head-to-head with a live audience Spokesman clash on immigration, welfare and tax Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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