# If You Use Wine Or Scrolling To Cope, Try This | Meg Josephson

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Podcast: [The Daily Motivation](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-daily-motivation-5671643)
Published: 2026-06-24T07:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://greatness.lnk.to/1942DM
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## Resource

Therapist Meg Josephson joins Lewis Howes on The Daily Motivation Show to explain why we reach for alcohol, scrolling, and food to escape discomfort, and what actually builds safety instead. She shares the body-based breathing practice that signals calm to your nervous system, even when the anxiety doesn't fully disappear.

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