# Norman Baker - Prince Andrew Still Doesn't Want You to Know About Woking's Pizza Express

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Podcast: [The Daily Heretic](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-daily-heretic-7574275)
Published: 2026-07-10T07:00:00+00:00
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Years later, people are still talking about one of the most infamous interviews in royal history. Why did Prince Andrew mention Pizza Express in Woking? And why did that explanation become such a defining cultural moment in Britain? In this explosive conversation, former MP and investigative author Norman Baker unpacks the lasting fallout from Prince Andrew’s disastrous Newsnight interview and why the controversy continues haunting the Royal Family today. 👉 Subscribe to The Daily Heretic now for fearless conversations: https://www.youtube.com/@hereticsclips/videos Norman Baker joins Andrew Gold to examine how a single television interview transformed public perceptions of Prince Andrew forever and triggered one of the biggest crises the modern monarchy has faced. In this focused discussion, Baker reflects on the now-infamous Pizza Express in Woking explanation that became instantly embedded in British popular culture following Prince Andrew’s attempt to defend himself against allegations connected to Jeffrey Epstein and Virginia Giuffre. Why did the interview provoke such overwhelming public disbelief? And why do many critics believe it permanently destroyed Prince Andrew’s credibility and public standing? The conversation explores the wider implications of the interview and why it exposed deeper questions surrounding royal privilege, institutional protection, media management, and accountability. Baker argues that the controversy surrounding Prince Andrew became symbolic of growing public frustration toward elite institutions perceived as disconnected from ordinary standards of responsibility. Baker also explains why the Royal Family initially appeared unable to understand the scale of reputational damage caused by the interview. Why did palace advisers allow the inte…

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