# Olivia Rodrigo Tried Writing Love Songs. Then Life Got Messy. Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-daily-7819709/olivia-rodrigo-tried-writing-love-songs-then-life-got-messy Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-daily-7819709/olivia-rodrigo-tried-writing-love-songs-then-life-got-messy.md Podcast: [The Daily](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-daily-7819709) Published: 2026-05-31T10:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://www.spreaker.com/episode/olivia-rodrigo-tried-writing-love-songs-then-life-got-messy--72260952 Audio file: https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72260952/default.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-daily-7819709/episodes/olivia-rodrigo-tried-writing-love-songs-then-life-got-messy Duration seconds: 5397 ## Resource Olivia Rodrigo sat down with Joe and Jon for her first in-depth conversation about her new album, β€œyou seem pretty sad for a girl so in love,” out June 12. She discussed the many ways her creative process intersects with the extracurricular noise of pop superstardom, whether its managing relationship drama; being targeted for the way she dresses, accusations of pilfering songwriting gestures from Taylor Swift, her onetime idol, or her willingness to speak up about political and social causes in a way many of her peers won’t. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher . For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. 🌎 THE STORIES THAT MATTER. EVERY SINGLE MORNING. Join 5M+ daily listeners staying ahead of the headlines. πŸ“ˆ 🎧 DON'T BE THE LAST TO KNOW Catch today's deep dive: ▢️ LISTEN NOW Never miss a beat: πŸ”” SUBSCRIBE FREE ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-daily-7819709/episodes/olivia-rodrigo-tried-writing-love-songs-then-life-got-messy/transcription-requests` β€” Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-daily-7819709/olivia-rodrigo-tried-writing-love-songs-then-life-got-messy.md` β€” Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.