# The Truth About Burnout & How to Eliminate the Root of it featuring Dr. Georgine Nanos

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Podcast: [The Dad Edge Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-dad-edge-podcast-522814)
Published: 2026-05-25T00:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://thedadedge.com/1482
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## Resource

In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Georgine Nanos — board certified family physician, founder of Kind Health Group and Kind TMS, and the first clinician in the world to successfully condense the 40-day TMS protocol into a single day. TMS stands for transcranial magnetic stimulation. It's been FDA approved since 2008, has no long-term side effects, and uses magnetic field energy to create new synaptic pathways in the part of the brain where anxiety, depression, and PTSD get locked into negative stress loops. The Stanford trial that condensed it from 40 days to five days got a 90% response rate. Dr. Nanos condensed it further — to a single 12-hour day — and got the same results. But this is not just a clinical episode. We talk about why men specifically have such a hard time reaching out, why burnout is a perfectly valid reason to pursue this, why the cop from the Bay Area who couldn't be present for his kids started playing drums again a month after treatment, and why the family almost always sees the improvement before the patient does. Dr. Nanos also gets personal — she has mild anxiety and insomnia, was skeptical when she first tried TMS on herself, and has now done it multiple times since. Her kids describe her as chill. She credits the machine. Timeline Summary [0:00] Introduction to the Dad Edge mission and the movement to raise leaders of families and communities [1:03] What TMS is — transcranial magnetic stimulation, FDA approved for 18 years, not electric shock therapy [2:38] How negative stress loops form in the brain — and how TMS creates new synaptic pathways around them [5:41] The difference between TMS and ECT — why TMS was born and why ECT is the last resort [6:59] Why TMS hasn't gone mainstream — 40 days, insurance barriers, and older devices that were…

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