# Thomas Richard chats to Chad Fullerton, VP of Information Security, ECI Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-cyber-security-recruiter-podcast-6600237/thomas-richard-chats-to-chad-fullerton-vp-of-information-security-eci Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-cyber-security-recruiter-podcast-6600237/thomas-richard-chats-to-chad-fullerton-vp-of-information-security-eci.md Podcast: [The Cyber Security Recruiter Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-cyber-security-recruiter-podcast-6600237) Published: 2026-07-22T07:12:35+00:00 Episode link: https://rss.com/podcasts/thecybersecurityrecruiterpodcast/3009593 Audio file: https://content.rss.com/episodes/227325/3009593/thecybersecurityrecruiterpodcast/2026_07_21_10_08_02_ccc347a1-08ba-46e4-b27b-69b31a53df0a.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-cyber-security-recruiter-podcast-6600237/episodes/thomas-richard-chats-to-chad-fullerton-vp-of-information-security-eci Duration seconds: 3027 ## Resource Chad Fullerton on AI, Claude Code, and Staying Valuable in Cybersecurity Tom chats with Chad Fullerton, a former US Navy member and current VP of Information Security at ECI, about his career path, family life, and how AI is reshaping work. Chad emphasizes fundamentals like caring, continuous learning, and maintaining a positive mindset, noting he consumes about 120 audiobooks a year. He describes practical AI use cases such as using Claude to merge multiple pen test reports quickly, warns that deliverables and contracts will be reviewed by AI, and discusses token costs. He argues AI shifts value toward industry expertise, client-facing advisory skills, and automating small time savings at scale, not just coding, and advises professionals to adapt rather than fear disruption. Book recommendations include Uniquely Human (Barry Prizant), Good to Great, and CISSP 11th Hour, plus Brandon Sanderson’s fantasy books. 00:00 Welcome and Setup 00:45 Meet Chad Fullerton 02:01 Day in the Life 03:18 AI Revolution Pace 04:37 Fundamentals and Growth 05:41 Learning Habits That Compound 09:39 AI in Security Workflows 11:55 Claude Code and Automation 18:43 Adapting to Disruption 20:42 Positivity and Hiring Signals 26:10 Layoffs and Reputation 27:41 LinkedIn Is Not Therapy 31:43 Clicks at Scale 34:01 Stop Being Cost Center 36:37 Advisors Beat Hoodies 40:14 Work Backwards Roadmap 42:21 Daily Learning Mindset 43:29 Books That Shaped Chad 47:29 Sales Outreach Done Right 49:08 Social Media Reality Check 49:56 Wrap Up and Next Time Nexo - Executive, GTM & Cybersecurity Recruitment https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomaspropen/ ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-cyber-security-recruiter-podcast-6600237/episodes/thomas-richard-chats-to-chad-fullerton-vp-of-information-security-eci/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-cyber-security-recruiter-podcast-6600237/thomas-richard-chats-to-chad-fullerton-vp-of-information-security-eci.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.