# The Cybersecurity Recruiter talks to Andrew Kirch, Director of Technical Operations, Stoic Cybersecurity

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Podcast: [The Cyber Security Recruiter Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-cyber-security-recruiter-podcast-6600237)
Published: 2026-05-22T12:34:16+00:00
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Andrew Kirch on Hacker Mindset, Insider Threats, and AI’s Impact on Cybersecurity In this Cybersecurity Recruiter podcast episode, Thomas chats with Andrew Kirch, Director of Technical Operations at Stoic Cybersecurity, who describes his wide-ranging background across IT, red and blue team work, tabletop exercises, and early experience running a major DNS blacklist that helped him understand how attackers think. Andrew argues hacker mindset is learnable through experience, stresses reputational and insider threats, and explains prioritizing vulnerabilities based on real exploitability. He shares stories involving Anonymous, Occupy Wall Street amplification, and law-enforcement work culminating in Operation Cyber Slam. The discussion covers increasing criminal organization, AI-driven risks (voice cloning, fake candidates, faster exploit development, and corporate secrets leaking via public AI), the need for continuous learning, and sources he follows such as YouTube, Ground News, CISA updates, and The Register. 00:00 Podcast Welcome 00:55 Andrew’s Background 04:55 Hacker Mindset Tips 06:51 Prioritizing Real Threats 08:56 Anonymous Storytime 12:00 Operation Cyber Slam 15:24 Cybercrime As Business 17:25 How To Level Up 21:01 AI And IP Risks 24:04 Generalist Security Skills 24:41 AI Voice Fraud Threat 26:17 Fake Candidates Remote Hiring 27:39 AI Widens Attack Surface 29:28 Breach Costs and Insurance 31:01 Writing Reports With AI 34:10 Tone and Social Engineering 36:10 Cyber News Sources 39:22 Geopolitics and Ransomware 41:18 Utilities and SCADA Risks 42:53 Zero Trust and Passkeys 45:32 AI for SOC Defense 47:25 Wrap Up and Farewell

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