# The Cybersecurity Recruiter talks to Ray DeMeo, Managing Director, Pulse Drive Group

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Podcast: [The Cyber Security Recruiter Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-cyber-security-recruiter-podcast-6600237)
Published: 2026-04-22T14:50:28+00:00
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## Resource

Ray DeMeo on Cybersecurity Investing, AI Risk, and Building Resilient Teams Thomas chats with Ray, managing director at Pulse Drive Group with a background in senior roles across tech and venture advising, about current cybersecurity market dynamics and investing. Ray notes recent acquisitions focused on cyber AI and protecting AI applications and data, highlighting the need to reduce risk and address SOC alert overload. They discuss the Gartner Hype Cycle moving faster, hiring shifts toward broader, architecture-aware talent, and the possibility that top security individual contributors will become highly compensated as AI increases productivity. Ray contrasts slow government procurement with urgent geopolitical pressures, citing Ukraine’s drone-driven innovation. He shares career lessons from early customer-facing work, startup discipline, mentorship in large companies, and the responsibility of layoffs. Ray argues most security spending is post-deployment, urging stronger pre-deployment secure coding. Book recommendations include Nicole Perlroth’s “This Is How the World Ends,” plus “Team of Teams,” and Steve Martin’s “Born Standing Up.” 00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro 01:52 Ray’s Mission in Cybersecurity 04:03 Market Pulse and Investor Sentiment 04:25 AI Security and M&A Trends 07:09 Hype Cycle and Skills Shift 10:16 Government Pace and Ukraine Lessons 12:34 Career Lessons and Early Hustle 14:16 Startup Discipline and Customer Focus 16:56 Founder High and Building Momentum 18:23 Why Startups Hook You 19:41 Client Facing Skills 20:39 Caddying Lessons 21:47 Building People Skills 23:10 Big Company Mentors 25:48 Hard Leadership Calls 27:33 Secure Code Gap 32:36 AI and Code Quality 34:24 Books and Mindset 36:28 Advisory Work Network 37:51 Closing Thanks

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