# 141 S13 Ep 18 – Getting the Integrated Fires Support Plan Right w/JRTC Experts

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Podcast: [The Crucible - The JRTC Experience Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-crucible-the-jrtc-experience-podcast-6038857)
Published: 2026-03-21T01:26:21+00:00
Episode link: https://thecrucible-thejrtcexperience.podbean.com/e/141-s13-ep-18-%e2%80%93-getting-the-integrated-fires-support-plan-right-wjrtc-experts/
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## Resource

The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the one-hundredth-and-forty-first episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by MAJ Marc Howle, the Brigade Senior Engineer / Protection Observer-Coach-Trainer for Brigade Command & Control (BDE HQ) and MAJ Jeff Horn, the Executive Officer OCT for Fires Support Task Force (FA BN / DIVARTY), on behalf of the Commander of Ops Group (COG). Today’s guests are experts within JRTC’s BC2: MSG Jared Cawthon as the BDE Fires Support NCOIC, MSG Austin Moss as the Senior Targeting NCOIC OCT, CW3 Michael Horrace is the BCT Targeting Officer OCT, and MSG Randell Conway as the BDE S-2 Intelligence NCOIC OCT. This episode focuses on the fundamentals and execution of an effective integrated fires support plan, emphasizing that true integration begins early in the MDMP process and is anchored by a well-constructed and disciplined timeline. The discussion highlights the importance of the higher headquarters’ operational timeline (HOP), nested planning timelines, and synchronization across echelons to ensure fires are aligned with maneuver. A key theme is the tight coupling between intelligence and fires during mission analysis, particularly through IPOE/SPOE, where accurate enemy templating, event templates, and collection planning directly enable lethal and effective targeting. Without this integration, fires risk becoming terrain-focused rather than threat-focused, leading to ineffective effects and missed opportunities to shape the fight. The episode also explores best practices for sustaining integration throughout planning and execution, including the role of running estimates, valid planning assumptions, and the continuous feedback loop between MDMP and the targeting process. It underscores the neces…

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