# Listening to the Living World: Ami Vitale, Yann Martel, Carl Safina, David George Haskell & Others on Climate Change & The Rights of Nature

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Published: 2026-04-01T15:24:00+00:00
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Today, we hear from writers  Yann Martel, Carl Safina  and  David George Haskell  on the practice of listening to the living world.  Tom Chi  discusses the dangerous volatility of a one-degree shift.  Clayton Aldern  explores how climate change alters brain health and behavior, while  Ami Vitale,Osprey Orielle Lake  and  Martín Von Hildebrand  remind us of the kinship we share with nature. Fred Pearce discusses 40 years as a journalist reporting on climate from around the world, while  Richard Black  of the environmental think tank Ember and Paula Pinho, European Commission’s Chief Spokesperson, talk about policy, hope and the radical empathy required to protect the planet for future generations. (0:00)  Clayton Page Aldern  – Finding awe and beauty in the world (0:40)  David George Haskell   – On consequences of humans tuning out the sounds of the living world (2:11)  Yann Martel  – How animals ask us to step out of our humanity (3:12)  Carl Safina  – The interior lives of non-human animals (5:08)  Ami Vitale  – Environmental collapse and human conflict (6:37)  Martín von Hildebrand  – Indigenous views of nature (8:00)  Richard Black  – Transition to clean energy vs. massive fossil fuel subsidies (10:01)  Tom Chi  – Climate destabilization (11:07)  Paula Pinho  – Europe’s vision for energy independence (14:04)  Osprey Orielle Lake  – Māori concept of "I am the river and the river is me” (16:08)  Bill Hare  – On limiting global warming to 1.5 degrees (17:19)  Fred Pearce  – Finding hope in nature’s resilience To hear more from each guest, listen to their full  interviews . Epis…

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