# 224: Gudnak - In Pursuit of the Third Way

Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-covenant-cast-414091/224-gudnak-in-pursuit-of-the-third-way
Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-covenant-cast-414091/224-gudnak-in-pursuit-of-the-third-way.md
Podcast: [The Covenant Cast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-covenant-cast-414091)
Published: 2025-03-18T19:30:00+00:00
Episode link: https://teamcovenant.libsyn.com/gudnak-in-pursuit-of-the-third-way
Audio file: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/teamcovenant/POD-20250204-Clean-02.mp3?dest-id=488596
Processing state: not_requested
JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-covenant-cast-414091/episodes/224-gudnak-in-pursuit-of-the-third-way
Duration seconds: 6513

## Resource

Tim O'Brien, co-designer of Gudnak, sits down with Zach for a far-reaching discussion that offers a behind-the-scenes look into Chaotic Great's journey as a new indie card game publisher. At the heart of the discussion is the inevitable question for this new round of "LCGs" - what has to change for this format to truly succeed? Check out the second Gudnak Kickstarter campaign to see potential answers to that question: https://cov.link/gudnak-ks

## Actions

- request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-covenant-cast-414091/episodes/224-gudnak-in-pursuit-of-the-third-way/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode.
- read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-covenant-cast-414091/224-gudnak-in-pursuit-of-the-third-way.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource.

A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed.

## Transcript

Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.