# Wellness, Leadership, and The Curve with Retired Chief Doug Shoemaker

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Podcast: [The Coptimizer Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-coptimizer-podcast-5904869)
Published: 2025-08-27T16:48:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode of The Coptimizer Podcast, Patrick Flannelly sits down with retired Chief of Police Doug Shoemaker for an honest conversation about wellness, leadership, and the evolving challenges of modern policing.

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