# Leadership, Legacy, and the Cost of Service ft. Gary Woodruff

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Podcast: [The Coptimizer Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-coptimizer-podcast-5904869)
Published: 2026-05-08T13:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this candid, wide-ranging conversation, host Patrick Flannelly sits down with Retired Chief Gary Woodruff to unpack the realities of leadership, wellness, and life after command.

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