# The populist Democrat taking on his own party (with Abdul El-Sayed) Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-conversation-with-dasha-burns-642858/the-populist-democrat-taking-on-his-own-party-with-abdul-el-sayed Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-conversation-with-dasha-burns-642858/the-populist-democrat-taking-on-his-own-party-with-abdul-el-sayed.md Podcast: [The Conversation with Dasha Burns](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-conversation-with-dasha-burns-642858) Published: 2026-07-17T09:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/POLL2946548217.mp3 Audio file: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/POLL2946548217.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-conversation-with-dasha-burns-642858/episodes/the-populist-democrat-taking-on-his-own-party-with-abdul-el-sayed Duration seconds: 2665 ## Resource Abdul El-Sayed – the progressive former public health official running for the Democratic nomination in Michigan's open Senate seat – joins Dasha to explain why he believes "both parties are lying" to working Americans, unleashes on the ‘hypocrisy’ of the Democratic establishment, and defends his record on “Defund the Police,” ICE, socialism and more.  Have thoughts for the show? Text or leave us a voicemail at 202-643-1536. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-conversation-with-dasha-burns-642858/episodes/the-populist-democrat-taking-on-his-own-party-with-abdul-el-sayed/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-conversation-with-dasha-burns-642858/the-populist-democrat-taking-on-his-own-party-with-abdul-el-sayed.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.