# Rahm Emanuel makes his 2028 pitch over pizza in Chicago | On The Road

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Podcast: [The Conversation with Dasha Burns](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-conversation-with-dasha-burns-642858)
Published: 2026-07-29T09:00:00+00:00
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Rahm Emanuel joins POLITICO's Jonathan Martin at Michael's Original Pizzeria on Chicago's North Side for a wide-ranging conversation about his political future, the Democratic Party's identity crisis and why he's seriously considering a run for president in 2028.    The former Chicago mayor, Obama chief of staff and U.S. ambassador to Japan reflects on the biggest mistakes of both parties, argues Democrats need to win back the political center, weighs in on Israel, China and Donald Trump, and explains why he believes America is at a political turning point.    Plus: Chicago tavern-style pizza, growing up on the North Side and the childhood experience that still drives Emanuel today. 

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