# Inside Newsom’s plan to take on Trump | On The Road

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Podcast: [The Conversation with Dasha Burns](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-conversation-with-dasha-burns-642858)
Published: 2026-03-24T09:00:00+00:00
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Today, we're bringing you an episode from our new show, On the Road. California Gov. Gavin Newsom sat down with POLITICO’s Jonathan Martin for a wide-ranging conversation about the personal experiences that shaped his political career. A leading potential contender for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2028, Newsom has been raising his national profile by taking on President Donald Trump and traveling to key early primary states while promoting his new memoir. In the interview with Martin, Newsom reflects on his upbringing, outlines what he sees at stake for Democrats in 2026 and explains his increasingly aggressive strategy toward Trump.

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