# 4 | The Making of One Nation: move the centre

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Podcast: [The Conversation Documentaries](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-conversation-documentaries-1107318)
Published: 2026-06-02T18:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://theconversation.com/uk/topics/the-conversation-documentaries-podcast-formerly-the-anthill-27460
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It’s never held government, or even opposition, yet One Nation’s managed to exert an outsized influence on the public policy agenda. From borders to migration, multiculturalism to Indigenous affairs, the far-right party has mastered mainstreaming and captured the masses fleeing the Coalition. In the fourth instalment of The Making of One Nation, we speak to Josh Sunman, Associate Lecturer in Public Policy at Flinders University and Tim Bale, a Professor of Politics at Queen Mary University of London. This episode was written and hosted by Ashlynne McGhee and produced and edited by Isabella Podwinski. Sound design by Michelle Macklem. Misha Ketchel is the editor of The Conversation Australia. If you are enjoying the series, please consider donating to The Conversation , an independent, not-for-profit news organisation. Or, you can subscribe to one of our free newsletters .

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