# 3 | The Making of One Nation: survive a scandal

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Podcast: [The Conversation Documentaries](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-conversation-documentaries-1107318)
Published: 2026-05-26T18:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://theconversation.com/uk/topics/the-conversation-documentaries-podcast-formerly-the-anthill-27460
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We’d all like deeply considered policy and informed debate to be at the heart of politics, but unfortunately controversies and scandals tend to steal the show. For most parties, scandals are disastrous: they lose seats, ministers and elections — but not One Nation. It's weathered defections and punch-ups (including a memorable smearing of blood on a Senate door), jail and chaos, and thirty years on it's surging. This is a party that doesn’t just survive the chaos, but cultivates it and capitalises on it. This episode was written and hosted by Ashlynne McGhee and produced and edited by Isabella Podwinski. Sound design by Michelle Macklem. Misha Ketchel is the editor of The Conversation Australia. If you are enjoying the series, please consider donating to The Conversation , an independent, not-for-profit news organisation. Subscribe to The Conversation's free newsletters .

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