# 2 | The Making of One Nation: define the enemy

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Podcast: [The Conversation Documentaries](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-conversation-documentaries-1107318)
Published: 2026-05-19T18:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://theconversation.com/uk/topics/the-conversation-documentaries-podcast-formerly-the-anthill-27460
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You might remember this line in Pauline Hanson's maiden speech: "I'm afraid we're in danger of being swamped by Asians." It wasn't the first racist comment she'd made in public and it certainly wasn't the last. Over the years, her enemies have changed and she now targets Muslims and elites, but it's the same tactic and it's infiltrated Australian politics. This episode was written and hosted by Ashlynne McGhee and produced and edited by Isabella Podwinski. Sound design by Michelle Macklem. Misha Ketchel is the editor of The Conversation Australia. If you are enjoying the series, please consider donating to The Conversation , an independent, not-for-profit news organisation. Subscribe to The Conversation's free newsletters .

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