# Shadow Treasurer Tim Wilson Joins the Pod. And, Robyn Denholm cosplays Founders, Elon a Trillionaire and the great Xero Pay Rip-Off

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Published: 2026-06-15T19:00:00+00:00
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00:00 - Catapult Powering the World Cup 04:00 - EOFY Sales 08:45 - Taxis + Uber Decision 18:00 - Sleep Question 23:00 - $1 Trillion vs $1 Billion 27:00 - Robyn Denholm 40:00 - CGT Changes + Impact on Startups 52:45 - VicRoads Fail 54:15 - Xero 1:04:00 - SpaceX 1:17:44.100 - Tim Wilson joins The Contrarians   Join us on Substack for articles, news and more: https://www.thecontrarianspod.com/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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