# Canva’s AI Crisis, Karl Stefanovic’s Podcast Genius, Labor’s CGT Shambles, and Claude Design Changes Everything

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Podcast: [The Contrarians with Adam and Adir](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-contrarians-with-adam-and-adir-6585229)
Published: 2026-06-29T19:00:00+00:00
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Adam and Adir break down whether Canva has missed its golden window to sell, why Karl’s split with Nine might be a brilliant media move, and how the government’s startup tax carve-outs could smash founders and employees. Plus, Will joins for a quick behind-the-scenes update on The Contrarians as a standalone media business.   00:00 - Update from Will 18:00 - Choosing a Chair for a Business 35:00 - World Cup Lessons 41:00 - Karl Stefanovic 1:02:00 - Claude Design 1:23:00 - More CGT Discussion   Join us on Substack for articles, news and more: https://www.thecontrarianspod.com/   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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