# Pope Leo, AI vs. Humanity, and Peter Thiel

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Podcast: [The Contrarian Pod](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-contrarian-pod-7410561)
Published: 2026-06-02T21:36:31+00:00
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## Resource

Catholic scholar Christopher Hale, publisher of the newsletter Letters From Leo , is one of the foremost writers on how Pope Leo XIV’s papacy intersects with politics and faith during the Trump presidency. He sat down with Contrarian editor Tim Dickinson to discuss Pope Leo XIV’s first encyclical and why he chose to focus so much of it on the rapid rise of AI and the need to put humanity before technology. The Contrarian is owned by nobody. Your paid subscription helps us bring you the brightest voices in politics & culture and fight every day against the Trump chaos machine. Join us on Substack . This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.contrariannews.org/subscribe

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