# Ep. 162 - Subversive Cartography Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-commonweal-podcast-1149321/ep-162-subversive-cartography Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-commonweal-podcast-1149321/ep-162-subversive-cartography.md Podcast: [The Commonweal Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-commonweal-podcast-1149321) Published: 2026-06-02T16:43:00+00:00 Episode link: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/SM1225488295.mp3 Audio file: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/SM1225488295.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-commonweal-podcast-1149321/episodes/ep-162-subversive-cartography Duration seconds: 3067 ## Resource For as long as humans have been able to write, they’ve made maps. Sometimes maps show paths to the sacred. More often, they depict borders and boundaries, becoming tools of exclusion and control. Not so for Sandy Rodriguez, a third-generation Chicana artist based in Los Angeles. Her work, made with traditional indigenous paper and pigments, offers a pointed alternative to the map of the United States of America as we know it. On this episode, Rodriguez speaks with Commonweal’s Claudia Avila Cosnahan and Griffin Oleynick. She shows how the land—la tierra insurgente—can rise up and resist the violence carried out by ICE and the Trump administration against our immigrant neighbors. Plus, Commonweal Senior Correspondent Heidi Schlumpf delivers a roundup of the latest Catholic news. For further reading: Claudia Avila Cosnahan on the siege of Los Angeles Nicole-Ann Lobo on Chicana artist-activist Yolanda López Alejandro Anreus on the Hispanic Society Museum and Library ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-commonweal-podcast-1149321/episodes/ep-162-subversive-cartography/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-commonweal-podcast-1149321/ep-162-subversive-cartography.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.