# Ep. 152 - Crypto-Religiosity

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Podcast: [The Commonweal Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-commonweal-podcast-1149321)
Published: 2025-06-06T17:39:00+00:00
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It’s often remarked that America has become less religious, especially during recent decades. But what if that religiosity hasn’t disappeared, but just taken less visible forms? That’s exactly what was happening in the arts in 1980s NYC, argues Paul Elie, author of The Last Supper: Art, Faith, Sex, and Controversy in the 1980s. As Elie tells it, the era wasn’t just marked by the ascendance of the moral majority and the authority of tradition—figures like Pope John Paul II and Ronald Reagan. It also featured subtle engagement with spiritual themes by the likes of figures like Leonard Cohen, Andy Warhol, Madonna, Patti Smith, Bruce Springsteen, and Martin Scorcese, and provides a template for understanding where Catholicism stands today. For further reading: An excerpt from Paul Elie’s new book Kaya Oakes on why religion must ask better questions Susan Bigelow Reynolds on millennial religious rejection

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