# Talk Tough, Act Soft

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Podcast: [The Commentary Magazine Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-commentary-magazine-podcast-765483)
Published: 2026-06-22T15:32:00+00:00
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## Resource

Washington commentary columnist Jamie Kirchick joins us to discuss the unfurling disaster at the Iran talks in Switzerland and the establishment of a "deconfliction cell" that doesn't include Israel, and the looming specter of Israel's scapegoating for the inevitable failure of the agreement. Plus, Keir Starmer's resignation, the ongoing reflecting pool controversy, the DSA ascendancy in democratic politics, the passing of Alan Greenspan, and John recommends Voicemails for Isabelle. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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