# China's AI Upstarts: How Z.ai Builds, Benchmarks & Ships in Hours, from ChinaTalk

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Podcast: ["The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-cognitive-revolution)
Published: 2025-12-03T19:33:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai/china-s-ai-upstarts-how-z-ai-builds-benchmarks-ships-in-hours-from-chinatalk/
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## Resource

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