# Flat White Or F*ck Off! The Worlds Most Controversial Coffee Shop!

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Podcast: [The Coffee Show with Kirk Pearson](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-coffee-show-with-kirk-pearson-7331229)
Published: 2026-03-01T20:21:00+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-coffee-show-with-kirk/episodes/Flat-White-Or-Fck-Off--The-Worlds-Most-Controversial-Coffee-Shop-e3fpel7
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## Resource

Can you imagine going to a coffee shop and getting told to fuck off by the server? Well, that now exists thanks to a whimsical bunch of lads in the United Kingdom. Tom Noble, Will Sudlow and Charlie Hurst are the three founders of Flat White or Fuck Off, a pop up that came about thanks to British figure Rory Sutherland, who spoke of this idea on another podcast. Charlie Hurst loved the idea so much he came up with some concept designs, then Tom Noble and Will Sudlow decided they wanted to bring the idea to life, and just like that the idea was born! In this podcast we discuss in depth how the idea came about, what their goals are and why they all love coffee so much, despite not working in the industry previously. How much further can they go? And should they try pre-batching their espresso? Find out in this weeks episode of the Coffee Show! Tell two friends, subscribe and leave a like. Help a brother out! Website: https://flatwhiteorfckoff.com/

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