# Tuesday, May 19th 2026 - Full Show (Ep #1,219)

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Podcast: [The Clay Edwards Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-clay-edwards-show-3546582)
Published: 2026-05-19T15:13:05+00:00
Episode link: https://clayedwardsshow.podbean.com/e/tuesday-may-19th-2026-full-show-ep-1219/
Audio file: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/ebbhh9bsxk5rbp5k/cedwards_show_ep_12198cpcb.mp3
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**Clay Edwards Show – Episode 1219 Recap** **Guests:** Shaun Yurtkuran (Hour 1 & 2) and Andrew Gasser (Hour 2) ### Mark Fuhrman’s Passing & OJ Simpson Trial ReflectionsClay opened by discussing the passing of Mark Fuhrman, the former LAPD detective best known for his role in the O.J. Simpson trial. He described Fuhrman as one of the most iconic and infamous figures in modern pop culture history. Shaun, who has studied the case extensively, noted that prosecutors were aware of Fuhrman’s background issues before calling him as a witness. He pointed out that Chris Darden reportedly resisted using Fuhrman, but Marcia Clark made the final decision to call him. Both hosts agreed the prosecution made critical strategic errors, including allowing O.J. Simpson to try on the glove in court. Clay connected the discussion to broader race relations in America. He shared his personal experiences growing up in South Jackson during the 1980s in a diverse neighborhood, attending public schools, and not encountering overt racism in his daily life. He argued that the very public celebrations by segments of the Black community following O.J.’s acquittal damaged race relations and have not aged well over time. Clay drew a distinction between individual Black people and what he called “Black culture rot.” ### Jackson Bribery Trial – The “Free the Land Three”Clay and Shaun devoted significant time to the federal bribery case involving Hinds County District Attorney Jody Owens, Mayor Chokwe Antar Lumumba, and Councilman Aaron Banks, whom Clay referred to as the “Free the Land Three.” - **Jody Owens’ defense**: Entrapment. He claims undercover agents took advantage of his alcoholism by getting him drunk during meetings (referencing White Claws and Truly in a photo included in court fil…

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