# Lilith

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Podcast: [The Classical Mind](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-classical-mind-5634653)
Published: 2026-01-20T11:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.theclassicalmind.com/p/lilith
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## Resource

In this episode of The Classical Mind , Fr. Wesley Walker and Dr. Junius Johnson explore George MacDonald’s 1895 fantasy novel, Lilith . The discussion navigates the tension between MacDonald’s occasionally “fumbling” literary style and the profound, “mythopoeic” power of his spiritual vision. The episode also touches on MacDonald’s universalist leanings and his belief that even “evil that is good for you” acts as a redemptive force. Ultimately, the episode highlights how Lilith challenges readers to move beyond a dry love of books to a lived experience of the supernatural reality they represent. We want to keep up the conversation with you! To receive new episodes and support our show, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Endnotes: * Junius: Phantastes by George MacDonald * Wesley: Our Next Work: Inferno by Dante Alighieri This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.theclassicalmind.com/subscribe

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