# Middle Powers in a Post-American Order Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-china-in-africa-podcast-420743/middle-powers-in-a-post-american-order Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-china-in-africa-podcast-420743/middle-powers-in-a-post-american-order.md Podcast: [The China in Africa Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-china-in-africa-podcast-420743) Published: 2026-05-08T05:24:00+00:00 Episode link: https://b3f2a027-658f-4f2b-812a-d8c56362e481.libsyn.com/middle-powers-in-a-post-american-order Audio file: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/b3f2a027-658f-4f2b-812a-d8c56362e481/CAP_05082026_Libsyn.mp3?dest-id=4284093 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-china-in-africa-podcast-420743/episodes/middle-powers-in-a-post-american-order Duration seconds: 2494 ## Resource The U.S. created the post-World War II international order that it no longer wants to lead today. But what replaces it is still unknown. So, in the meantime, small and medium-sized countries, so-called "middle powers," are scrambling to form new partnerships to insulate themselves from the inevitable instability that will arise from this transition. We're seeing this play out daily now as leaders from South Africa, Brazil, Australia, Vietnam, Japan, and dozens of other countries crisscross the globe at a frenetic pace to build what many are describing as a new middle-power coalition. But Sarang Shidore, director of the Global South program at the Quincy Institute, argued in a Foreign Policy column that it's going to be difficult, if not impossible, for a coalition like this to succeed. Sarang joins Eric to explain why divergent north-south interests will be very hard to overcome. πŸ“Œ Topics Covered in this Episode Rapid global realignment among middle powers Declining trust in U.S.-led institutions BRICS and alternative power coalitions China's growing Global South influence Transactional diplomacy and diversification What the next world order may look like Show Notes: Foreign Policy: Can Middle Powers Gel? by Sarang Shidore The New York Times : American Supremacy Is Over, and Something New Is Coming by Sarang Shidore Politico: Trump Is Demolishing the Global Order. Here's What Might Come Next. Join the Discussion: X: @ChinaGSProject | @eric_olander Facebook: www.facebook.com/ChinaAfricaProject YouTube: www.youtube.com/@ChinaGlobalSouth Now on Bluesky! Follow CGSP at @chinagsproject.bsky.social Follow CGSP in French and Spanish: French: www.projetafriquechine.com | @AfrikChine Spanish: www.chinalasamericas.com | @ChinaAmericas Join us on Patreon! Become a CGSP Patreon me… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-china-in-africa-podcast-420743/episodes/middle-powers-in-a-post-american-order/transcription-requests` β€” Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-china-in-africa-podcast-420743/middle-powers-in-a-post-american-order.md` β€” Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.