# The Law of the Lid: Why the Energy in Your Room Starts with You - John Norlin

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Podcast: [The CharacterStrong Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-characterstrong-podcast-458738)
Published: 2026-07-03T07:01:00+00:00
Episode link: https://characterstrong.com
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## Resource

Today, host John Norlin shares a leadership concept called The Law of the Lid, drawn from Dr. John Maxwell's work. The core idea is straightforward: as a leader, you cannot expect the people around you to bring more energy, effort, or authenticity to the room than you are willing to bring yourself. He also explains how this principle applies at every level of a school, from the classroom teacher setting the tone with students to the building administrator setting the tone with staff, and why the controllables like mood, preparation, and vulnerability are where leaders should focus first. In this conversation, John offers important reminders for educators and leaders: The energy level in your room is a reflection of what you as the leader are willing to bring. If you want more from others, start by examining what you are modeling. Students and staff crave leaders who set the tone consistently, not just on good days. If you want students to share more openly, they need to see you sharing. If you want them to work through difficulty, they need to hear how you have done it. This concept is simple to understand but not easy to live out. That is exactly what makes it worth returning to. Learn More About CharacterStrong: Access FREE MTSS Curriculum Samples Request a Quote Today! Learn more about CharacterStrong Implementation Support Visit the CharacterStrong Website

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