# Cisco CEO Chuck Robbins on AI transformation, hard decisions, and leading at speed

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Podcast: [The CEO Signal](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-ceo-signal-7770591)
Published: 2026-05-28T09:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode of The CEO Signal, Chuck Robbins talks about the people decisions behind a transformation as sweeping as Cisco's repositioning for the age of AI. He says executives need to “disagree and commit,” but warns that CEOs shouldn't tolerate people who aren't on board with the strategy. “The one thing that is like death in an organization is passive aggressive behavior,” he says. Hosted by Penny Pritzker and Andrew Edgecliffe-Johnson, the conversation explores how Robbins has pushed Cisco beyond its traditional networking hardware roots toward software, security, recurring revenue and the infrastructure behind AI. He describes Cisco’s role in the AI buildout as supplying the connectivity, silicon and security layer that allows large-scale AI to run. “At the end of the day, you have to connect all these things,” he says. Robbins reflects on how his own leadership has changed after more than 10 years as CEO, including when to step out of the room, so the CEO’s viewpoint doesn’t distort the decision-making process. He says the decisions that reach the his desk usually involve “two bad choices,” with major unknowns, or choosing between two respected leaders who fundamentally disagree. In those moments, he argues, delay can be worse than error: “A bad decision that is reversed is better than a delayed decision.” His advice to other CEOs trying to keep large organizations moving at the speed of AI is to “be the pace car.” For Robbins, that means setting the pace on communication, learning, and responsiveness, from regular company-wide communication to AI training for employees and even the board. “If you want your team to move faster,” he says, “you have to move faster.” About the show The CEO Signal is Semafor’s interview platform for conversations with the global…

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