# Kouri Richins: What Eric Knew — and What It Cost Him

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Podcast: [The Case Against Kouri Richins](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-case-against-kouri-richins-6402997)
Published: 2026-03-29T19:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://audioboom.com/posts/8879417
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Eric Richins knew something was wrong. He documented it. He restructured his estate, told his attorney he was protecting his children from his wife, and took legal steps to put his fear on the record. And then he died in that house anyway. This week on Hidden Killers, Tony Brueski, psychotherapist Shavaun Scott, and retired FBI Behavioral Analysis Chief Robin Dreeke examine the human story underneath the Kouri Richins conviction — and the parallel case of Mike Williams, whose wife Denise held her version of this story together for seventeen years before it broke. Mike Williams vanished on a duck hunting trip in December 2000. His mother Cheryl was told she was paranoid for fighting the official story. Denise collected $1.75 million in insurance and married the man who killed her husband. They raised Mike's daughter together. Cheryl kept fighting for seventeen years. She was right. The con broke when Brian Winchester decided his own survival mattered more than Denise's secret. The Kouri Richins case broke the same way. The friend. The boyfriend. The housekeeper. People who were inside the orbit of this relationship and stayed quiet — until a Utah courtroom gave them no other option. Shavaun Scott brings her clinical expertise to the piece of this story that matters most to anyone who recognizes it from the inside. The love bombing at the beginning. The coercive control in the middle. The gaslighting that makes the person being harmed question their own perception of reality. And the exit — the most dangerous moment in any relationship like this, the point at which prosecutors allege Eric Richins' quiet move toward freedom may have preceded the night he died. Eric documented his fear. He tried to protect his children. He deserves to have the full picture of what happened…

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