# Men's Ministry Starting at Five?

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Podcast: [The Carrie Abbott Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-carrie-abbott-show-241640)
Published: 2026-04-14T19:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Trail Life USA CEO Mark Hancock says you don't do men's ministry 'at' men but 'with' men. He shares the original intent of this biblically based scouting program—started because of the Boy Scouts allowing homosexual leaders, adding girls, and promoting a DEI focus. We also hear from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth on why the Boy Scouts' affiliation with his department is at risk and what they can do and gives Trail Life a shout-out!

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