# Thriving Through Change: How Sustainability can give your travel program a competitive edge | The Carbon Compass Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-business-of-travel-6576338/thriving-through-change-how-sustainability-can-give-your-travel-program-a-competitive-edge-the-carbon-compass Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-business-of-travel-6576338/thriving-through-change-how-sustainability-can-give-your-travel-program-a-competitive-edge-the-carbon-compass.md Podcast: [The Business of Travel](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-business-of-travel-6576338) Published: 2025-04-30T08:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://gbtapodcast.libsyn.com/thriving-through-change-how-sustainability-can-give-your-travel-program-a-competitive-edge-the-carbon-compass Audio file: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/gbtapodcast/GBTA_Pod_ThrivingChange-Compass_V2.mp3?dest-id=672537 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-business-of-travel-6576338/episodes/thriving-through-change-how-sustainability-can-give-your-travel-program-a-competitive-edge-the-carbon-compass Duration seconds: 894 ## Resource In this episode of The Carbon Compass, Chrissa Pagitsas (CEO, Pagitsas Advisors) joins Fanny Everard (Sustainability Program Manager, GBTA Foundation) to explore how sustainability drives business value, insights on GBTA Sustainability Summit, and why sustainability is good for business —despite policy rollbacks. Interested in continuing the conversation? Join Chrissa, Fanny, and other sustainability professionals in business travel on June 10 th at the GBTA Sustainability Summit. https://sustainability-summit.gbta.org/registration/ The Carbon Compass is the sustainability and planet-focused subseries of the Business of Travel podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please make sure to follow us on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-gbta-foundation/ Music track is Space Jazz by Kevin MacLeod Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-business-of-travel-6576338/episodes/thriving-through-change-how-sustainability-can-give-your-travel-program-a-competitive-edge-the-carbon-compass/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-business-of-travel-6576338/thriving-through-change-how-sustainability-can-give-your-travel-program-a-competitive-edge-the-carbon-compass.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.