# 57. Exposing the Flaws in Employer Healthcare: What Brokers Won’t Tell You with Jay Gepfert Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-business-of-benefits-podcast-6744252/57-exposing-the-flaws-in-employer-healthcare-what-brokers-won-t-tell-you-with-jay-gepfert Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-business-of-benefits-podcast-6744252/57-exposing-the-flaws-in-employer-healthcare-what-brokers-won-t-tell-you-with-jay-gepfert.md Podcast: [The Business of Benefits Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-business-of-benefits-podcast-6744252) Published: 2025-08-07T13:02:00+00:00 Episode link: https://www.spreaker.com/episode/57-exposing-the-flaws-in-employer-healthcare-what-brokers-won-t-tell-you-with-jay-gepfert--67276012 Audio file: https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/67276012/episode_57_with_jay_gepfert_v3.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-business-of-benefits-podcast-6744252/episodes/57-exposing-the-flaws-in-employer-healthcare-what-brokers-won-t-tell-you-with-jay-gepfert Duration seconds: 2927 ## Resource In this powerful episode, Donovan Ryckis sits down with Jay Gepfert, President of The Culpepper Group, to unpack what employers don't know—and what it’s costing them. With decades of experience on both the retirement and healthcare side of the fiduciary table, Jay brings the receipts on how hidden broker compensation, lack of transparency, and outdated fee structures are draining company resources and exposing employers to serious risk. You’ll hear: Why healthcare benefits need the same due diligence as retirement plans How compensation models drive broker behavior—and what to demand instead A real case study showing 46% savings in broker fees Why the current healthcare system is broken—and how litigation and legislation are forcing change What you need to start doing now to protect your plan, your budget, and your people If you're an HR leader, CFO, or CEO who’s ready to ask the tough questions and rethink your benefits strategy—this episode is your playbook. Subscribe now and hit the bell so you never miss an episode. Because if the truth is out there... are you ready to hear it? Let us know your thoughts in the comments & don’t forget to subscribe for more no-BS insights. Whether you're an HR professional, CFO, CEO, or just tired of rising healthcare costs, this is your call to rethink benefits strategy and finally take control. Learn more about Jay's work: https://www.culpepperrfp.com/ Connect with Jay Gepfert on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jay-gepfert-rfps-for-retirement-health-and-welfare-plans-a418027/ Connect with Chelsea and Donovan: Website: https://businessofbenefitspodcast.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ethoseffectpodcast/ Chelsea: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chelsea-ryckis-8508a192/ Donovan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donovanrycki… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-business-of-benefits-podcast-6744252/episodes/57-exposing-the-flaws-in-employer-healthcare-what-brokers-won-t-tell-you-with-jay-gepfert/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-business-of-benefits-podcast-6744252/57-exposing-the-flaws-in-employer-healthcare-what-brokers-won-t-tell-you-with-jay-gepfert.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.